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your tool in tonight vision radio

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exposing the truth one secret at a time

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prepare yourself as we explore the

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shadow worlds of suppressed history

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secret knowledge forbidden religion and

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welcome to night vision radio

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hi everybody welcome to the show got a

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good one planned for you tonight thanks

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so much for being here and I hope

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everybody's keeping warm on the east

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coast of the United States I know you

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got a bit of a storm although I do think

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some of our friends got missed the storm

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a little bit further east and was

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previously predicted and some people

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didn't get quite as snowed in as others

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data want to send a Hello out to my

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nephew grant benim in Boston because he

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definitely got it and I want to thank

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him for sending pictures back on the

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first day of the storm it was really

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really wild but hope all you guys are

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keeping warm and listening to night

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vision radio right now so tonight my

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guest is the Reverend Michael Carter

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he's got a guest of mine in the past

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when he had his first book out alien

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scriptures and now that he has his new

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book out had to have him back on because

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this while it does refer certainly to

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references in the scriptures of ETS it

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goes even further than that in his new

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book is called a new world if you can

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take it oh my goodness so welcome

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Michael back one more time tonight

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vision radio oh it's a pleasure to be

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here thanks Renee you know and we'd be

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remiss if if we didn't also mention

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marc-eddy for his help in getting this

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show going today thanks mark for sending

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info over to me on Michaels behalf and

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also want to mention Brian canard over

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at grave distractions calm that's great

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distractions publishing who publishes

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Michael's books and actually some books

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of other friends of mine and other

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guests that we've had on this show

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before Brian does a wonderful job and I

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just found out that he's responsible for

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that wild cover on Michaels new book so

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which I was asking where did you get

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that idea where did that come from and I

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know that you and Brian worked on that

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together and he played a big part in it

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so we want to give him credit for that

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that's absolutely amazing

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yeah Brian and Mark have been godsend

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and I stand on their shoulders I stand

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on the shoulders of a lot of people so

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uh but I really don't we all real yes

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I'm really I'm really happy and I I'm

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glad that you mentioned them yeah

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absolutely well you know they're both

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good friends and good friends of this

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show and and also great people in the

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seeking of truth that we're that we're

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all going through I think we're all sort

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of in this together oh IC markets in the

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chat room so he's saying you're welcome

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and but I owe him ten dollars so hey

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always always trying to get a dollar

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exactly exactly that's keep it cheap it

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twice the price so anyhow let's dive in

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into the subject Michael so you know you

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are a real live preacher a real life

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church minister and yet you have these

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beliefs about sort of possibly our

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ancient origins you believe in ETS and

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in fact have had your own experiences

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this from my pulpit I don't feel called

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to have quote-unquote a UFO church I

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know that's not what you're implying I

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will occasionally throw in a quote from

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John Mack or Whitley or you know just

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someone from the community but it's

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always in the context of whatever my

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topic is that particular Sunday oh my

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congregation is very much aware of what

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I do though I mean they've seen me on

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ancient aliens some of them have

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purchased my books I'm always surprised

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last Sunday someone came through the

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receiving line and shook my hand and

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said hey I'm having a good time with

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this and he pulled out alien Scripture

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yes I have an experiencer I continue to

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have experiences to the present day I'm

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glad for them even though they were very

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frightening at the beginning not so much

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because of what these brothers and

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sisters did to me but just the fear of

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the bizarre look bizarre looking people

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you know coming in my room at night that

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kind of thing but it's been great and

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it's opened me up to the possibility

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well I would say it's not even possible

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that that dilute the universe is teeming

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with life and I wouldn't trade it for

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anything in the world and it's been it's

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been a journey I met some wonderful

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people so you know we've all heard of

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these you know so called alien abduction

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experiences where people are completely

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freaked out and they you know have

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nightmares about it they live in fear

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about it but are you sort of indicating

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that the sort of negative part about it

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was really just the fear of the unknown

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at the time and while I sort of were

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able to to sort of reconcile that what

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did the experience has become what you

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would term positive well they to me they

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were always positive now I want to be

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clear Renee that I do acknowledge and I

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do respect and I do believe and other

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folk who've had the trauma uh you know

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the sperm taken the ovum the rectal

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probes I mean just all horrific things

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that can happen I think that's very real

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in hypnosis would bug but with the late

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but happens when he was alive with the

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late gene Monday wonderful people at

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what they did I did not have that now I

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did have some painful things happen

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but by and large my experiences I

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believe enhance my spiritual growth and

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that's where I kind of differ because I

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want people to know just like with human

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beings you bet you have some people who

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have good intentions or what have you

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met people who don't but I don't want to

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be one of those people who paint all

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offworld intelligences as evil or you

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know or here to run some hybrid program

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or what have you so I want to let people

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know that there are positive results and

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and for my part it was a lot of personal

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transformation and raising of

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consciousness now when you your

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experiences started as a child right

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they did I could not put my you know I

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couldn't articulate it i mean i would

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wake up sometimes with a lot of you know

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i thought i had nosebleeds I I know why

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would have blood on my pillow and you

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know I don't have a history of

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nosebleeds and I would wake up and

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they're be these orbs in my room various

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colors and they would be floating I

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could see them it was to be dimensional

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and they were just so cool in front of

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green and they look like they were like

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circles but they had like little dots in

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them and I received all the time but I

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thought everybody saw it so I was like

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hey what's the big deal I would see the

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aura around people I still do to this

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day around objects around shake tables

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chairs around people I could see the

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colors change around them when they were

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thinking things and what have you but on

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December 28 1989 there was no doubt

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because that's when I had my first

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contact experience where there was an

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individual there it was it was it was

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being I was wide awake of that kind of

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thing when I later found out from other

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experiences that I would I may have had

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an implant put in and that's why I will

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wake up with blood on my pillow because

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I don't have a history of nose please I

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didn't know I thought I was bleeding for

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my ear or something I was like why do I

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have one over it go hmm Oh stinky yeah

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yeah who was a Kierkegaard who says that

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life is lived forward but it's only

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understood backwards oh how true is that

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yeah yeah so that's that's what was

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going on and um but for me again um I I

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think it's made me a better person and

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you know I lived my life less fearfully

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I'm I'm more open to saying I'm sorry

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I'm scared I don't know no no I was

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always working on myself you know

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meditation career I have my rituals that

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I do but it was almost that this was

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accelerated it because remember I did

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not believe in UFOs I thought that was a

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bunch of you know what and and and I

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remember growing up in Baltimore and I

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remember a young man we went down on

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Howard Street near the civic center and

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I'm a matter of how we got on the

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subject I remember this guy saying to me

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he was he was astonished he said you

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don't believe in UFOs and I said no I

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don't believe in any of that stuff and

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he said why not and my answer was

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because it's not in the Bible oh boy

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yeah what a difference of 58 years makes

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absolutely absolutely yeah we're going

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to get into some of that those biblical

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references soon because I know

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everyone's excited about those and

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really interested in those and that's

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what has made your first book so

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successful and I believe that was a

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best-seller wasn't it Whitley's dreamer

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and we are on amazon on amazon it was

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there on amazon I think back in March

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almost a year ago on the topic of UFO

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and my friend Whitley screamer said that

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alien scriptures in the Holy Bible is

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the best book ever written of a subject

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now he was very gracious and I said well

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can I use that quote he said sure but

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remembered of dr. Barry downing back in

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1968 wrote the Bible and flying saucers

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Mars k Jessup who died under mysterious

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circumstances where the book called UFOs

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in the Bible Virginia Virginia

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brasington who's from was from my part

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of the country where I live now here in

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North Carolina had written a book on the

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subject so you know I just kind of took

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the ball and ran with it I think the

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difference between myself and and those

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folks like that we have a very different

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theology I think I'm probably a little

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more progressive or liberal in my

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theological views but i'm also an

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experiencer and to the best of my

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knowledge barry morris jessup and

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virginia brasington i don't think they

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were contactees so i bring that to the

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table as well yeah you bring that

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perspective and also don't you think

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that it's also partially about where we

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are as a developing society as an

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evolving humanity that we're more

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familiar with these kinds of things now

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with these ideas so that what you're

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telling us and the way that you're

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bringing it into context is a little bit

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easier for us to get or understand today

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then maybe even 20 30 years ago it's

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just you know I think people sort of get

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certain things oh yes yes i agree i

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mentioned my contact experiences I was

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afraid it was suicide good career

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suicide and my you know when i did my

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first publisher a barber de-balled she

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said Michael you gotta tell your story

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you've got to add you know it's nice

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that you do the research with

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Bible and that kind of thing but you

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really have to tell but but I also feel

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Renee and you you hit on it it's about

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human evolution that's the message that

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I've been getting from these offworld

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intelligences that we're not here to

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take over your planet we're not here to

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run your life we're here to take

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humankind to the next stage of evolution

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but you too violent and you are to war

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like you are too fearful of difference

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and so in order for us to go to that

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next stage you know you know we have to

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have a new perspective on religion and

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what that means this also brings

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together spirituality and technology we

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have the United States of America has

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all the technology it can handle but we

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don't have the spirituality to go with

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it and so therefore it can be very

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dangerous mixture we make drones with

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new technology we make what weapons of

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war what would happen if we use some of

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this technology to feed this planet to

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give people fifteen dollars an hour to

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live on I mean you know an hour to work

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with what would happen if you use this

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technology and our spirituality to not

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compete but to cooperate and so we are

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dangerous not only to ourselves of

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course with all the nuclear stuff that's

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going on we're a danger to life

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elsewhere in the universe absolutely you

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know you're talking about this this

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spirit or idea of cooperation and it it

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does seem like there is you know at

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least the seed or the kernel of that

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idea that I'm saying you know popping up

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from different quarters i know we had

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michael tellinger on as a guest not too

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long ago when he was talking about the

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ubuntu movement which is basically their

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idea of contribution ism i think the

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word run to actually just means

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human you know and and so but the idea

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is everyone contributes and you know in

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everyone benefits instead of just just a

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very few and I kind of feel like we've

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sort of on the one hand as a society

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reach this lopsidedness to where the

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wealth is so poorly distributed and on

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the other hand I think we've started to

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get people thinking this can't be

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beneficial for the planet you know if

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everyone's starving and these few people

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are living in you know 100 room homes

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you know housed how does that help the

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planet you know so I feel like these

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ideas are getting more and more welcomed

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by you know people at large and society

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more so than they used to be because

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we've here in America were taught you

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know capitalistic society you know what

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is admired and what is successful in

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this country is what they call pulling

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yourself up by your own bootstraps and

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making a go of it you know but actually

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you know if there was a cooperative

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nature and everyone was helping everyone

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wouldn't that really be a better way to

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go than just fighting your way to the

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top you know climbing up the ladder on

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the backs of whoever might be in your

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way so I like that idea that you're

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talking about how does it go into a fact

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well I first of all I agree with you and

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I know it is a matter of perspective is

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the glass full was the glass half empty

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I mean you have a lot of people running

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around saying it's the end times and

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Armageddon and Jesus is going to come

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again and we're all going to be BBQ if

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we don't believe the same way um but I

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think it does start with the individual

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and I don't mean that in a narcissistic

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way we have a speaker a politician

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coming to speak at our church this

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Sunday I'm off but I'm speaking at

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another church

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and the title of her talk is called the

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myth of individualism and we all stand

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on the shoulders of other people and so

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there is a myth to that and it's

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individualism has gone amok in Western

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culture because it's all about me me me

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me me now having said that I think that

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the world does change one person at a

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time and tying it into contact

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experiences it's not so much about at

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least in my mind about the contact um

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you know but it's about the change of

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consciousness it's about you know

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there's an old saying that once a mine

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has had a different experience it's hard

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to go back to the old way of thinking

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and so you know Gandhi says be the

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change you want to see in the world I

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can't control what's going on in Ukraine

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I can't do anything about what's going

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on with Hezbollah and Netanyahu i wish i

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could but what i can do is what you know

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change myself and that ripple effect

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because everything is energy does go out

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and change the world and when i go out

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tomorrow got to go to work got to be at

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the church how do I deal with my fellow

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human beings you know so that's how the

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world changes one person at a time but

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it begins with Michael Jackson's old

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some the man or woman in the mirror

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that's who you gotta change yeah that's

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it that's it now do you feel like that

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that is you feel like we're headed

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toward you know sort of reaching

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critical mass in you know people

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starting to to see that I kind of almost

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hate to use the word awakened it's good

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it's a good hair I guess it is I guess

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it is i'm not sure if people were

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necessarily asleep or more like

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hoodwinked you know and sort of rather

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than awakening the beginning to sort of

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come out of the fog you know in which i

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guess is in

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some ways the same thing but do you feel

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like we're headed toward that is this we

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headed toward something wonderful or is

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it you know just gonna be more the same

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and it seems like you know I hate to say

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it but it seems like religion is a big

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problem that's five of my book yeah

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religion is a big problem well first of

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all yes to your first part of your

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question I have the audacity to believe

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in love even to this day I have the

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audacity to boot to hope I think that

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we're going through some transformation

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and it's going to get a little rough so

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people would need to put the seat belts

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on but I do think I'm not a doom and

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gloom person I'm not looking for

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Armageddon or the apocalypse those are

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certainly possibilities Greg Brandon

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talks about the Heisenberg principle

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riches possibilities if we focus on the

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world we want then we will change but if

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we focus on what we don't want I mean

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it's quantum physics right what you

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focus on you create so I believe that we

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we are going through birth pangs a new

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world is coming but it's going to be

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some turbulence then that's the way I

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look at it now it depends again is the

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class of water half full or is it a half

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empty but if I believed otherwise I

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wouldn't get out of bed in the morning

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what's the big deal why get out of bed

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if we're going to all go to you know

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we're in a handbasket I mean it's it's

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it's a anti-intellectual you know people

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are saying oh it's all going to end and

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you know we're going to have this big

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world world war three then why do you

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get up why do you get up in the more

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yeah if it's really that bleak so I tend

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to side with it's a new world if you can

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take it religion is a problem the way

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we've been looking at religion and it's

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not just Isis I mean even though we're

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still fighting the Crusades in my part

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of the country while I would hug you

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know in the home country in some ways

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we're still fighting the Civil War I

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oh but having said that one of the

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reasons I wrote the book is to go a

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little bit further than ancient

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astronaut theorists who basically are

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saying that we our religions were

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possibly created intentionally or not

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consciously or not by offworld

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intelligences I say you got a point now

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what's the next step always saying that

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God is an extraterrestrial you know a

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lot of offworld intelligence is whether

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you read the literature or not a lot of

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them think that our religions our

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primitive because the way we express

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them it's it's it's it separates rather

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than unites said God is Santa Claus if

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you're naughty you're going to burn in

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hell if you nice you go to heaven that's

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really a childlike view of how the

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universe works now it works for some

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people my god it worked for me at one

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point but you know you know sometimes

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well as we as we move on we see things a

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little differently and so we need to I

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feel Michael feels that I think we need

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a more mature a perspective on

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spirituality and religion sus sus the

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book i'm a clergy person and i'm the

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first to tell you that hey man this

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religious these religious wars because

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that's what they basically are yes

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there's oil yes there's money and

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resources always but basically because

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you don't believe or you don't call God

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the same name I do or heaven help us you

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may not even believe in a God well whew

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we're going to kill you the name of God

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yeah it's it's really infantile it

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really really is and so but there's a

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different way we don't have to chuck it

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all uh that's why we have teachers and

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avatars like

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Buddha and Jesus and you know great you

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know Joan of Arc we have you know mother

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Teresa and and yes they they are

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larger-than-life figures but you don't

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have to be larger than life it's

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everyday folk it's how we treat one

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another it's how we relate to ourselves

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on the planet because I will know what

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you believe not by how many times you're

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a prayer meeting on Wednesday night and

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not by how many times you're in the

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mosque or the shul with a temple on the

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weekend one church I know what you

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believe by how you treat me it says soon

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what was that a wise rabbi said over

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2,000 years ago by their fruits you

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shall know them and who is that wise

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rabbi yeah I'll get back to you on that

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I gotta look that up yeah this is Jesus

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of Nazareth and words and then that's

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and they really you know Ray Charles can

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see it I will go by your actions not by

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what you tell me people will tell you

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anything and no that doesn't mean that

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people don't make mistakes and you know

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of course they do but basically i will

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know what you believe by how you live

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your life and you'll know what i believe

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by how I live my life my life is the

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greatest sermon that you'll ever hear

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hmm Wow yeah I totally agree I totally

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agree with that and eat you know it's

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funny you know you hear people talking

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about the Illuminati and the New World

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Order and things like that and saying

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that they want to get rid of religion

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00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:03,040
and you know unite people you know under

539
00:27:08,820 --> 00:27:06,700
a more spiritual way and you know the

540
00:27:11,010 --> 00:27:08,830
people are looking at that like that's a

541
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:11,020
really bad thing now I don't really know

542
00:27:15,570 --> 00:27:12,100
any Illuminati

543
00:27:21,270 --> 00:27:15,580
yeah or that I know of none of them have

544
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:21,280
identified themselves to me but it seems

545
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:26,530
to me like humanity uniting in a more

546
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:30,130
spiritual way is a good thing you know

547
00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:34,030
maybe they have ulterior motives but you

548
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:35,980
know for what they're saying but that

549
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:39,130
idea in itself that sounds kind of good

550
00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:42,970
to me yeah i agree with you i know i can

551
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:45,640
hear my fundamentalist evangelical

552
00:27:50,130 --> 00:27:48,070
christians talking about a new world

553
00:27:53,159 --> 00:27:50,140
order and the Antichrist and the false

554
00:27:59,149 --> 00:27:53,169
prophet and all that and but let's see

555
00:28:03,360 --> 00:27:59,159
what what the thing about religion is

556
00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:03,370
that we set boundaries okay I'm a

557
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:05,860
Unitarian Universalist someone else

558
00:28:11,419 --> 00:28:08,530
maybe evangelical Christian someone else

559
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:11,429
maybe Greek Orthodox Muslim to whatever

560
00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:14,320
but the thing is is that we have our

561
00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:17,980
boundaries but the point is is that we

562
00:28:25,260 --> 00:28:21,100
transcend them and it's almost like a

563
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:25,270
paradox where we set up it with you know

564
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:27,730
one doesn't have to give up being Roman

565
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:30,690
Catholic to get it that there are other

566
00:28:37,289 --> 00:28:34,210
ways to God if you want to use that word

567
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:37,299
and then when you're open to that you

568
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:39,970
realize that there really are no

569
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:43,600
boundaries that we're all going to the

570
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:46,210
same place we just have different ways

571
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:49,600
of getting there but the way human

572
00:28:55,230 --> 00:28:52,090
beings use religion we use it to

573
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:55,240
separate we do I'll take your tea party

574
00:29:00,360 --> 00:28:58,210
yeah I like Obama yeah you're an

575
00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:00,370
independent you know i'm just using this

576
00:29:06,659 --> 00:29:04,030
hypothetical sure absolutely and so we

577
00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:06,669
use it to separate and again if you

578
00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:11,260
wanna you want to create a world if you

579
00:29:15,419 --> 00:29:13,240
want to create a world that you want and

580
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:15,429
you have to focus on what you want not

581
00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:16,990
what you don't want so instead of

582
00:29:25,529 --> 00:29:21,390
focusing on Illuminati focus on a more

583
00:29:27,450 --> 00:29:25,539
cooperative planet yep you know

584
00:29:28,889 --> 00:29:27,460
hold it right there Michael if you don't

585
00:29:30,989 --> 00:29:28,899
mind sorry about that we're going to

586
00:29:32,369 --> 00:29:30,999
have to go to break and when we come

587
00:29:34,139 --> 00:29:32,379
back we're going to continue this

588
00:29:35,609 --> 00:29:34,149
thought and much much more with the

589
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:35,619
Reverend Michael Carter we'll be right

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00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:40,330
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646
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:42,000
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647
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:43,930
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648
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:46,330
host Renee Barnett and we're talking to

649
00:32:54,030 --> 00:32:49,120
the Reverend Michael Carter's about his

650
00:32:57,330 --> 00:32:54,040
et experiences and also about his latest

651
00:33:00,750 --> 00:32:57,340
book called a new world if you can take

652
00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:00,760
it which I I'm looking forward to it I

653
00:33:04,830 --> 00:33:03,070
don't know about you guys but I think we

654
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:04,840
could use some big big changes around

655
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:10,030
here so anyway Michael you know if I

656
00:33:16,170 --> 00:33:12,430
could just throw some stuff in from the

657
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:16,180
chat room people are talking I know we

658
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:18,210
were speaking a little bit earlier

659
00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:22,570
obviously about religion and there were

660
00:33:29,030 --> 00:33:26,470
some questions from the chat room one is

661
00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:29,040
is the Vatican specifically the Pope

662
00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:31,480
preparing the masses for a possible

663
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:34,600
alien arrival or disclosure in the

664
00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:36,490
future now I don't know if you have a

665
00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:40,390
pipeline directly to the Pope's but but

666
00:33:47,370 --> 00:33:44,590
I think you did address this question in

667
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:47,380
your new book I did and I would the

668
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:48,880
answer to that question in my humble

669
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:51,850
estimation is yes the Vatican has been

670
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:55,120
talking about this for quite a while and

671
00:33:59,100 --> 00:33:57,490
I know they had a I think if you can

672
00:34:02,370 --> 00:33:59,110
google this they had a conference i

673
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:02,380
think in 2005 with other religious

674
00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:04,750
leaders and i think they may admit it to

675
00:34:17,550 --> 00:34:08,470
you n if i'm not mistaken i think so and

676
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:17,560
and i also feel that the Vatican the

677
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:21,310
Catholicism will handle this much better

678
00:34:27,629 --> 00:34:23,919
than Protestant Christianity because

679
00:34:30,450 --> 00:34:27,639
they have a hierarchy they have angels

680
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:30,460
and saints and what have you so they

681
00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:33,010
they have a hierarchy if you will and

682
00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:36,790
and they're open to other no other

683
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:38,740
beings that you know for lack of a

684
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:40,960
better word well so do you think that

685
00:34:46,530 --> 00:34:43,649
they have a more sort of mystical

686
00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:46,540
approach to religion in a way in some

687
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:48,030
way yes yes I think

688
00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:51,210
that's a wonderful idea thank you very

689
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:53,790
much I think they do and so I you know

690
00:34:59,660 --> 00:34:56,700
then religions like Hinduism he'll be

691
00:35:02,000 --> 00:34:59,670
fine because they have you know others

692
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:02,010
lesser deities and you know that are

693
00:35:08,780 --> 00:35:06,110
different aspects of the grumman so

694
00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:08,790
catholicism has the saints and there's

695
00:35:15,260 --> 00:35:11,820
my corners rafael and this Uriel in

696
00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:15,270
Judaism i mean so we have um we can look

697
00:35:20,780 --> 00:35:18,120
at that as other deities they're not not

698
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:20,790
not that God head if you will so they

699
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,050
won't have to look that they'll be able

700
00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:24,720
to adapt to it and of course well Pope

701
00:35:29,870 --> 00:35:27,660
Francis is very outspoken on many social

702
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:29,880
issues but of course talking about that

703
00:35:35,570 --> 00:35:32,910
uh you know that extraterrestrial life

704
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:35,580
does not conflict with Catholic theology

705
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:38,690
and of course Monsignor Bala duty

706
00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:41,370
whoo-hoo edad he was a Vatican Exorcist

707
00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:43,350
talking about the reality of

708
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:47,120
extraterrestrial life so I think yes I

709
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:50,970
if you will but remember disclosure is

710
00:35:57,650 --> 00:35:53,520
happening now a lot of people are

711
00:36:00,350 --> 00:35:57,660
waiting for Obama or who's going to be

712
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:00,360
Cesar next maybe Jeb Bush will be Caesar

713
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,450
or uh or uh oh Clinton's I mean I mean

714
00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:08,640
I'm over these dynasties but you know

715
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:10,830
but but you waiting for them to come out

716
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:12,510
on the White House lawn and say guess

717
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:15,090
what folks we're not alone that may

718
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:18,210
happen I don't think it will but it may

719
00:36:24,410 --> 00:36:21,240
happen but remember with with all these

720
00:36:29,180 --> 00:36:24,420
nations releasing their UFO data Mexico

721
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:29,190
Brazil of the UK France China it's

722
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:32,960
happening right now but we can't see it

723
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:36,540
because we're so busy looking at other

724
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:38,970
things and what I wanted to say before

725
00:36:46,850 --> 00:36:42,810
the break was that we're so busy talking

726
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:46,860
about the nepheline and the Annunaki and

727
00:36:53,180 --> 00:36:50,640
these are lovely subjects but we're so

728
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:53,190
focused on technology that we're missing

729
00:36:56,980 --> 00:36:55,770
the thing that will take us over the top

730
00:36:59,820 --> 00:36:56,990
and that's it

731
00:37:03,130 --> 00:36:59,830
that's the evolution of consciousness

732
00:37:05,859 --> 00:37:03,140
many people who have had who have looked

733
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:05,869
with these beings in the eye you come

734
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,170
back transform but we don't talk about

735
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:11,119
that too many more we talk about people

736
00:37:15,970 --> 00:37:13,280
getting anal probes and all that and

737
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:15,980
that goes on but what about the

738
00:37:20,859 --> 00:37:18,050
spiritual trend this is what John Mack

739
00:37:23,170 --> 00:37:20,869
was all about this is what the early

740
00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:23,180
contactees whether you like George

741
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:25,640
Adamski to a great extent Billy Meyer

742
00:37:30,850 --> 00:37:28,610
who I talk about a lot yes they were

743
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:30,860
human beings they may have stretched the

744
00:37:35,530 --> 00:37:33,110
truth here and there I don't know but I

745
00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:35,540
do know the message that they gave all

746
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:39,350
had the same team and that was like we

747
00:37:45,460 --> 00:37:43,010
need to change our ways if we want to go

748
00:37:47,470 --> 00:37:45,470
into if we want to go to the next level

749
00:37:52,210 --> 00:37:47,480
we need to start bringing our a-game

750
00:37:56,859 --> 00:37:52,220
because the planet and ourselves we're

751
00:37:58,930 --> 00:37:56,869
going to destroy each other and when you

752
00:38:00,520 --> 00:37:58,940
you know since you have had these

753
00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:00,530
experiences and you have had

754
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:05,750
communications what do they say to you

755
00:38:14,980 --> 00:38:09,440
if anything about will there be some

756
00:38:18,609 --> 00:38:14,990
great show of their presence or is that

757
00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:18,619
even important the only information that

758
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:24,080
I have gotten was this that we are not

759
00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:26,000
here now these are the beings that I've

760
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:30,920
been about seeing three races so i can't

761
00:38:35,650 --> 00:38:33,080
speak for people who've met praying

762
00:38:39,930 --> 00:38:35,660
mantis or the altar ians or what have

763
00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:39,940
you um but know that they're out there

764
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:47,150
that we fight too much no one's here to

765
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:49,850
take over your planet no one's here to

766
00:38:55,570 --> 00:38:52,609
control your destiny we're trying to

767
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:55,580
help you go to the next level of

768
00:39:00,670 --> 00:38:58,400
evolution you are more powerful and more

769
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:00,680
creative and more loving than you think

770
00:39:06,820 --> 00:39:04,550
you are but you are too violent you are

771
00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:06,830
too fear-based you

772
00:39:15,550 --> 00:39:12,860
legends are primitive you are you know

773
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:15,560
we need we need more of an idea of

774
00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:19,520
social justice of equity that's what

775
00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:22,100
they're talking about and if you go back

776
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:25,190
this is this message is where we heard

777
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:27,110
this before for Christian folk out there

778
00:39:34,090 --> 00:39:30,490
this is the message of Jesus of Nazareth

779
00:39:35,860 --> 00:39:34,100
this is the message that and it's not

780
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:35,870
the only one that's just you know been

781
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:37,910
my thing but but this is the message

782
00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:40,970
this is this is an old message it's just

783
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:44,360
that it's hard to get people get people

784
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:45,680
say well that's not sexy we hear that

785
00:39:52,930 --> 00:39:49,130
all the time no but we don't do it we

786
00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:52,940
can't do it pick up a newspaper it's a

787
00:39:59,310 --> 00:39:56,710
mess but we have to go through this in

788
00:40:02,590 --> 00:39:59,320
order to get to the other side and

789
00:40:04,930 --> 00:40:02,600
people um want to take us back to the

790
00:40:07,780 --> 00:40:04,940
1950s and some people in this country

791
00:40:10,810 --> 00:40:07,790
but life doesn't go backward life goes

792
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:10,820
forward and so people are going to hold

793
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:15,680
on to the old paradigm mmm but they can

794
00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:19,010
hold on all they want victor hugo says

795
00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:21,830
nothing is as powerful as an idea whose

796
00:40:27,850 --> 00:40:24,950
time has come and that's why you here

797
00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:27,860
and you see uh you see people all over

798
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:31,700
the world now talking about this old

799
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:34,730
ways not working I can't keep working 70

800
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:36,770
hours a week for less than normal way

801
00:40:42,220 --> 00:40:39,770
minimum wage there was a time we would

802
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:42,230
know who the [\h__\h] brothers were called

803
00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:43,850
whatever their name is because they

804
00:40:48,850 --> 00:40:46,220
would have power behind the power yeah

805
00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:48,860
no plot no lie lives forever now we're

806
00:40:56,860 --> 00:40:50,990
putting a face on things that's

807
00:40:59,350 --> 00:40:56,870
evolution that's evolution yeah nothing

808
00:41:03,040 --> 00:40:59,360
is hidden that won't be uncovered yes

809
00:41:08,830 --> 00:41:03,050
and I yeah you see things popping out

810
00:41:11,620 --> 00:41:08,840
all the time but what about you

811
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:11,630
mentioned that you you had met three

812
00:41:17,410 --> 00:41:15,410
races of VTS could you talk a little bit

813
00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:17,420
about those races what were the races

814
00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:19,670
were the greys one of the races will see

815
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,260
they weren't

816
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:22,720
right the brother who came in my room I

817
00:41:30,540 --> 00:41:25,930
am assuming it was a man that could be

818
00:41:33,570 --> 00:41:30,550
my own sexism um uh which was chalk

819
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:33,580
white he looking he had the phenotype of

820
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:35,590
what we call you know the great brothers

821
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:38,560
and sisters you know spindly kind of

822
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:40,510
when it walked it didn't really want

823
00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:42,040
your kind of glide in kind of jerky

824
00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:44,500
movements are three me four feet tall

825
00:41:50,610 --> 00:41:47,550
you know little very thin had the

826
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:50,620
aluminum foil jumpsuit I I've seen

827
00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:53,920
reptilians two different kinds one of

828
00:41:58,170 --> 00:41:55,540
them look like spider-man only with

829
00:42:00,450 --> 00:41:58,180
lizard skin and the eyes were yellow

830
00:42:02,430 --> 00:42:00,460
gorgeous looking back but then I thought

831
00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:02,440
I was going to have my heart pop out of

832
00:42:11,010 --> 00:42:06,540
my chest and with the the pupils are

833
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:11,020
vertical hmm okay like your cats right

834
00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:15,310
um and then the brother who came in my

835
00:42:25,050 --> 00:42:17,800
room and he was a blood clot i had on

836
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:25,060
july 4th um 2013 at 950 p.m. he was all

837
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:27,790
humanoid I mean he had blond hair very

838
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,910
pale not white not tall white bread big

839
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:33,280
muscular had a cow on you know like a

840
00:42:38,310 --> 00:42:35,710
Renaissance monkeys without you know

841
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:38,320
hoodie mmm a fifteenth-century hoodie I

842
00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:40,270
catch me could call it that and he

843
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:42,700
looked human I guess we could say

844
00:42:49,290 --> 00:42:45,310
palladian you know he was very pale blue

845
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,300
eyes big the reptilians are big and and

846
00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:51,760
and this brother was big like he went to

847
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:53,950
the gym or something now you hear so

848
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:57,130
much negative stuff about the reptilians

849
00:43:01,410 --> 00:42:59,050
a nervous you didn't taking over the

850
00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:01,420
world and you know you have the whole

851
00:43:08,130 --> 00:43:05,620
David Icke take on everything yeah what

852
00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:08,140
woody what was your experience with my

853
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:09,880
spiritual stuff there was nothing like

854
00:43:15,150 --> 00:43:12,610
that they did no harm to me uh he

855
00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:15,160
touched me again you know after seeing

856
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:18,430
the little the little a little chocolate

857
00:43:22,650 --> 00:43:20,650
people of course I knew the I'd read

858
00:43:24,810 --> 00:43:22,660
about reptilians and what have you but I

859
00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:24,820
never seen one face to face but that's

860
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:28,150
the thing that gets me we it's like

861
00:43:33,309 --> 00:43:31,570
racism if if one black person steals

862
00:43:36,370 --> 00:43:33,319
your purse then all black p

863
00:43:39,609 --> 00:43:36,380
people are our suspect right well if you

864
00:43:41,739 --> 00:43:39,619
had one experience with a reptilian than

865
00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:41,749
all reptilians are and that also goes

866
00:43:46,449 --> 00:43:44,150
back to the serpent thing in the Bible

867
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:46,459
the serpent is evil and then you know in

868
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:48,529
Genesis and what have you so that kind

869
00:43:54,609 --> 00:43:51,170
of archetype sticks with us but no what

870
00:43:56,019 --> 00:43:54,619
was I scared it was the Jesus scared out

871
00:43:58,079 --> 00:43:56,029
of me you better believe it this

872
00:44:01,839 --> 00:43:58,089
individual walk through my wall of

873
00:44:04,359 --> 00:44:01,849
course I was scared but nothing untoward

874
00:44:07,809 --> 00:44:04,369
happened a matter of fact he told me and

875
00:44:11,769 --> 00:44:07,819
uh you know telepathically don't be

876
00:44:14,380 --> 00:44:11,779
afraid don't be afraid easy for him to

877
00:44:17,979 --> 00:44:14,390
say of course I was afraid but you know

878
00:44:20,170 --> 00:44:17,989
nothing I my spiritual growth has been

879
00:44:22,449 --> 00:44:20,180
accelerated from these experiences I'm

880
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:22,459
not saying everyone's has to be but what

881
00:44:29,890 --> 00:44:25,910
I am begging people please don't judge a

882
00:44:31,479 --> 00:44:29,900
whole lot by a little bit and if you

883
00:44:34,959 --> 00:44:31,489
read something that doesn't mean it's

884
00:44:37,479 --> 00:44:34,969
true I respect David Ickes work but you

885
00:44:41,979 --> 00:44:37,489
know the you know he's human he makes

886
00:44:46,299 --> 00:44:41,989
mistakes anytime you start saying those

887
00:44:50,589 --> 00:44:46,309
people yeah then you got a problem

888
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:50,599
you're in trouble yeah yeah from the

889
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:53,839
chat room Neutron says and I think in

890
00:44:57,519 --> 00:44:56,089
many ways you've answered this but maybe

891
00:45:00,489 --> 00:44:57,529
you could expand on a little bit more

892
00:45:03,579 --> 00:45:00,499
with so much testimony pointing at alien

893
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:03,589
abductions not being positive from

894
00:45:11,499 --> 00:45:06,529
abductees what makes Michael think it's

895
00:45:14,279 --> 00:45:11,509
positive because one person can't speak

896
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:14,289
for the millions of people who did not

897
00:45:20,769 --> 00:45:18,079
notice everything I'm saying that this

898
00:45:22,839 --> 00:45:20,779
is my experience that's right but but

899
00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:22,849
why don't why not research some other

900
00:45:28,539 --> 00:45:25,400
literature if the only tool you have is

901
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:28,549
a hammer everything looks like a nail so

902
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:31,609
you're reading all the all the materials

903
00:45:36,789 --> 00:45:34,160
that talks about that talks about

904
00:45:38,709 --> 00:45:36,799
negative experiences why not use the

905
00:45:40,829 --> 00:45:38,719
other side of your brain and read the

906
00:45:42,839 --> 00:45:40,839
other point read the other

907
00:45:45,930 --> 00:45:42,849
data that talks about positive

908
00:45:48,509 --> 00:45:45,940
experiences why not read dr. Richard

909
00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:48,519
boorlands book positive experiences with

910
00:45:52,650 --> 00:45:50,200
extraterrestrials whatever picked that

911
00:45:56,489 --> 00:45:52,660
one up why not pick up and go back and

912
00:45:58,380 --> 00:45:56,499
read the work of dr. John Mack why not

913
00:46:00,930 --> 00:45:58,390
read some of the earlier contact these

914
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:00,940
and their experiences I mean the data is

915
00:46:06,059 --> 00:46:03,130
right there it depends on what you want

916
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:06,069
to focus on that's true you know that

917
00:46:10,109 --> 00:46:07,569
doesn't mean that doesn't mean that

918
00:46:11,609 --> 00:46:10,119
there are negative experiences it just

919
00:46:14,279 --> 00:46:11,619
means that there's three sides to every

920
00:46:16,890 --> 00:46:14,289
story yours mine and the truth I hope

921
00:46:19,469 --> 00:46:16,900
that answers this question yeah I think

922
00:46:23,969 --> 00:46:19,479
it does and you know it's so true I

923
00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:23,979
remember oh maybe back in the 80s when I

924
00:46:32,459 --> 00:46:27,849
was involved in researching UFOs and

925
00:46:37,049 --> 00:46:32,469
alien abduction and I remember there was

926
00:46:39,029 --> 00:46:37,059
a very big schism between people that

927
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:39,039
were saying you know that they were

928
00:46:44,999 --> 00:46:41,910
having an alien abduction experience and

929
00:46:47,549 --> 00:46:45,009
people that were claiming to have a

930
00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:47,559
contactee experience there were AB

931
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:50,950
deputies and contactees and they didn't

932
00:46:55,170 --> 00:46:52,569
want to know they didn't want to know

933
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:55,180
each other side his story you know it

934
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:56,710
was a real and I was thinking well you

935
00:47:01,289 --> 00:46:59,200
know it's funny because they're having

936
00:47:04,289 --> 00:47:01,299
experiences but they're just you know

937
00:47:06,569 --> 00:47:04,299
why did it divided up into two camps you

938
00:47:10,099 --> 00:47:06,579
know why not just acknowledge that this

939
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,109
was my perception of my experience and

940
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,640
you may perceive something else with

941
00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:14,079
your experience or you might have had a

942
00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:15,969
completely different experience than I

943
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:19,660
did but there may be not so separate you

944
00:47:24,690 --> 00:47:22,329
know it's like I mean a you know

945
00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:24,700
obviously they're all contact these

946
00:47:30,859 --> 00:47:27,369
there's all been there they've all made

947
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:30,869
contact with some other form of being

948
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:33,910
but it's their perception or their

949
00:47:39,539 --> 00:47:37,089
experience personally yeah but not

950
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:39,549
necessarily the whole example to have a

951
00:47:43,799 --> 00:47:41,710
baby out with the bathwater exactly

952
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:43,809
exactly it depends on what you want to

953
00:47:49,259 --> 00:47:47,890
focus on and um you know the room was an

954
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:49,269
African wasn't played unless it that

955
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:51,849
said that the sign of a mature mind is

956
00:47:56,730 --> 00:47:53,890
someone who can hold two opposite

957
00:48:00,330 --> 00:47:56,740
ideas and still be able to to make a

958
00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:00,340
decision I mean again and and and I'm

959
00:48:05,310 --> 00:48:02,440
you know it irks me this is why you hear

960
00:48:06,750 --> 00:48:05,320
so much passion because basically we do

961
00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:06,760
that with religion and everything else

962
00:48:12,510 --> 00:48:08,710
we don't see things as they all receive

963
00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:12,520
things as we are and so because I have

964
00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:14,680
positive experiences doesn't negate the

965
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:17,230
negative ones the people had and because

966
00:48:24,270 --> 00:48:19,570
people have negative experiences doesn't

967
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:24,280
delete the positive experiences so again

968
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:27,370
it's look at the data that's why you

969
00:48:31,980 --> 00:48:29,110
have people who say I don't call myself

970
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:31,990
an abductee I call myself a contact e or

971
00:48:38,130 --> 00:48:35,200
an experiencer but again it depends on

972
00:48:41,070 --> 00:48:38,140
where you want to focus and and I'm not

973
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:41,080
here to change anybody's mind but if you

974
00:48:47,310 --> 00:48:42,850
want to focus on that then that's what

975
00:48:51,540 --> 00:48:47,320
you're going to get hmm you know you

976
00:48:55,890 --> 00:48:51,550
mentioned that you had was it the

977
00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:55,900
reptilian that that healed your blood

978
00:49:03,240 --> 00:48:59,290
clot no it was the blogroll the blonde

979
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:03,250
brother so that was 11 years ago that

980
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:06,850
was on july four and neutron in the chat

981
00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:08,890
room again wants to know what other

982
00:49:13,770 --> 00:49:10,870
medical procedures have they done on you

983
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:13,780
I had an angel I had a needle stuck in

984
00:49:20,550 --> 00:49:16,690
the back of my head went early on um

985
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,560
right in the back where my where the

986
00:49:26,190 --> 00:49:23,200
spine meets the bottom at the top of the

987
00:49:28,350 --> 00:49:26,200
spine meets the bottom of my head and it

988
00:49:31,530 --> 00:49:28,360
hurt like I'm not even usually acts with

989
00:49:33,150 --> 00:49:31,540
them and I was talking to a friend of

990
00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:33,160
mine about it who had there was a long

991
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:36,040
time contact d and he said you know what

992
00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:37,570
you gotta set some parameters with these

993
00:49:42,090 --> 00:49:39,940
people you got to tell him look that's

994
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:42,100
unacceptable you know and I thought he

995
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:43,810
was joking he said no Michael you got to

996
00:49:49,830 --> 00:49:47,680
have some power in this and so um I did

997
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:49,840
one day my meditations even after that

998
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:52,690
day when I woke up well I wasn't asleep

999
00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:54,910
I was paralyzed and they stuck the thing

1000
00:49:59,790 --> 00:49:57,310
I back my head and it hurt and I jumped

1001
00:50:01,320 --> 00:49:59,800
up and I had I used to keep a golf club

1002
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:01,330
in my room I know I don't play golf I

1003
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:02,890
was doing a show and I was playing a

1004
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,330
caddy and I'm

1005
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:06,160
remember picking it up now I remember

1006
00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:07,690
standing in the middle of my bedroom of

1007
00:50:11,460 --> 00:50:09,400
my underwear and my girlfriend at the

1008
00:50:14,010 --> 00:50:11,470
time must have thought what have I got

1009
00:50:16,110 --> 00:50:14,020
my son eating screaming at that the

1010
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:16,120
ceiling you can't do that man what could

1011
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:19,690
i'll let you know anyway i did tell them

1012
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:22,090
in my meditations and of course

1013
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:23,710
screaming at the top of my lungs that

1014
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:26,470
that was unacceptable so as fate would

1015
00:50:33,390 --> 00:50:30,810
have it about a month later I was in bed

1016
00:50:35,340 --> 00:50:33,400
and it got quiet again and you know

1017
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:35,350
because it gets really quiet before they

1018
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:37,210
come and even like the energy and the

1019
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:39,280
room changes it gets thick I do not

1020
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:42,250
explain and they showed me a picture of

1021
00:50:48,980 --> 00:50:45,760
a little needle and they put it in the

1022
00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:48,990
crown of my head I could barely feel it

1023
00:50:56,610 --> 00:50:53,230
hmm so they listened now I had to go

1024
00:50:59,520 --> 00:50:56,620
through a little pain but my my

1025
00:51:02,730 --> 00:50:59,530
intuitive and psychic abilities were

1026
00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:02,740
really enhanced after that and I was

1027
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:05,080
always always somewhat like that my mom

1028
00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:07,210
and gran mama that day they don't like

1029
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:09,420
the word psychic but they're very yeah

1030
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:11,530
they're different generation you know

1031
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:15,490
yeah okay now someone could say si si

1032
00:51:20,310 --> 00:51:18,160
look what they did they heard him and he

1033
00:51:23,370 --> 00:51:20,320
thinks that it's positive well it was

1034
00:51:25,070 --> 00:51:23,380
when you take your pet to the vet don't

1035
00:51:28,380 --> 00:51:25,080
they stick them in problem and all that

1036
00:51:30,690 --> 00:51:28,390
no good you know we don't know that's

1037
00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:30,700
okay because as humans doing that's

1038
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:33,580
almost so again brother what's-his-name

1039
00:51:37,740 --> 00:51:35,530
Metatron or dead at Ron or whatever his

1040
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:37,750
name asked Oh neutrons Neutron hey

1041
00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:39,940
neutron yeah so that's where that's what

1042
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:43,240
that's what I know now when bud um when

1043
00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:47,050
bud well yeah when Leigh budd hopkins

1044
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:49,840
had regressed me in relation Mooji

1045
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:52,450
Monday in my hypnosis sessions no other

1046
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,510
medical stuff came up no other medical

1047
00:52:00,540 --> 00:51:57,760
stuff came up although other other other

1048
00:52:03,390 --> 00:52:00,550
visits came up but that didn't that that

1049
00:52:06,030 --> 00:52:03,400
didn't come up so to my ability for my

1050
00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:06,040
knowledge that's it but again you gotta

1051
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:11,080
go back what am I talking about I'm

1052
00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:14,050
talking about love I'm talking about

1053
00:52:18,570 --> 00:52:16,270
higher consciousness

1054
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:18,580
talking about how to live in peace so

1055
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:20,800
yes I got stuck in the head with a

1056
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,490
syringe but I'm trying to live my life

1057
00:52:29,730 --> 00:52:27,040
in a loving way so don't worry about the

1058
00:52:32,490 --> 00:52:29,740
medical experiments worry about how I

1059
00:52:35,370 --> 00:52:32,500
don't worry at all honestly look look at

1060
00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:35,380
how I'm living my life brother that

1061
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:37,540
that's that's the key to any of this

1062
00:52:42,270 --> 00:52:40,240
whether you get visited by other people

1063
00:52:45,870 --> 00:52:42,280
or not don't worry about all that other

1064
00:52:48,860 --> 00:52:45,880
stuff how am i living my life how am i

1065
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:48,870
treating my planet how am i treating my

1066
00:52:55,290 --> 00:52:51,490
men and women and people of color and

1067
00:52:57,900 --> 00:52:55,300
gay folk and how am i treating them then

1068
00:53:00,510 --> 00:52:57,910
you'll know what Reverend Carter

1069
00:53:02,010 --> 00:53:00,520
believes now whether someone poked him

1070
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:02,020
in a butt with something and he and he

1071
00:53:07,350 --> 00:53:03,790
got requests and told you that that's

1072
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:07,360
that's irrelevant that's irrelevant and

1073
00:53:13,260 --> 00:53:09,970
we missed the whole we missed the whole

1074
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:13,270
message we can't see the forest for the

1075
00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:17,410
trees hmm I got another question for you

1076
00:53:25,010 --> 00:53:19,030
from the chat room if you're if you're

1077
00:53:29,130 --> 00:53:25,020
game bill says is the media specifically

1078
00:53:32,130 --> 00:53:29,140
Hollywood portraying ETS is having evil

1079
00:53:34,740 --> 00:53:32,140
or malevolent intentions to create fear

1080
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:34,750
and reason not to disclose to the public

1081
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:38,890
or even a false flag invasion I would

1082
00:53:46,110 --> 00:53:41,680
say yes we do it whether we want to

1083
00:53:48,060 --> 00:53:46,120
start wars we saw it with 911 we see it

1084
00:53:51,180 --> 00:53:48,070
well we could be watching it go on with

1085
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:51,190
Iran you know if we do it for that will

1086
00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:53,170
do it for a lot of other things I say

1087
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:55,750
yeah I have a good friend he lives in

1088
00:54:03,090 --> 00:53:57,970
the Netherlands he's a big George

1089
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:03,100
Adamski person and um we talk about this

1090
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:08,160
all the time he's not an experiencer I I

1091
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:11,290
highly commend his books to his name is

1092
00:54:21,690 --> 00:54:17,200
Gerard artson and he talks about and we

1093
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:21,700
talk about these humanoid folk who can

1094
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:25,330
walk get on an elevator with you and you

1095
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:28,000
may not know who it is you don't hear

1096
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:29,310
much about them

1097
00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:31,170
in Europe you do but you don't hear much

1098
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:33,780
about them here and I when he said

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00:54:39,410 --> 00:54:36,090
Michael one of the reasons is we want to

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00:54:41,570 --> 00:54:39,420
indicate everybody with the gray the

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00:54:43,970 --> 00:54:41,580
gray brother sister or the tall whites

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00:54:46,550 --> 00:54:43,980
that they look a different way it's

1103
00:54:48,140 --> 00:54:46,560
xenophobia in some ways but we don't

1104
00:54:50,110 --> 00:54:48,150
want to talk about those because these

1105
00:54:52,850 --> 00:54:50,120
other people could be in the Pentagon

1106
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,860
they could be walking they could be in

1107
00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:55,200
no places of power we don't want people

1108
00:55:02,440 --> 00:54:57,510
getting used to that because the more

1109
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:02,450
they look like you the harder it is to

1110
00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:06,090
really wish them bad things I try to

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00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:07,740
hurt them that's why when you go to war

1112
00:55:13,850 --> 00:55:11,040
they indoctrinate you you for a while so

1113
00:55:16,910 --> 00:55:13,860
you can see you can you can see you can

1114
00:55:18,740 --> 00:55:16,920
think of your enemy is not human it's

1115
00:55:21,050 --> 00:55:18,750
not human because if he or she is human

1116
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:21,060
it's hard to pull that trigger and we're

1117
00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:23,130
not talking about American sniper so

1118
00:55:29,950 --> 00:55:27,990
anyway oh that's another show but we

1119
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:29,960
don't talk about the humanoid ones

1120
00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:33,330
because because uh I just never thought

1121
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:35,700
of it that way because they're a lot

1122
00:55:40,340 --> 00:55:39,210
like us and yes people I've seen ETS who

1123
00:55:41,630 --> 00:55:40,350
look like they could be having an

1124
00:55:44,420 --> 00:55:41,640
American or Egyptian or whatever

1125
00:55:46,940 --> 00:55:44,430
Assyrians I'm talking about from the

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00:55:49,790 --> 00:55:46,950
planet Ceres allegedly or can appear and

1127
00:55:54,830 --> 00:55:49,800
start skin people but I do think we're

1128
00:55:58,220 --> 00:55:54,840
being set up in some ways because if

1129
00:56:00,140 --> 00:55:58,230
there ever is a war we've already to be

1130
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,150
indoctrinated that these beings they

1131
00:56:03,620 --> 00:56:02,160
look like bugs like cockroaches they

1132
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:03,630
look like praying mantis they're not

1133
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:07,290
human yada yada yada yada yada so you

1134
00:56:12,830 --> 00:56:10,650
have to be you have to discern where

1135
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,840
people are coming from and how do you do

1136
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:14,640
that by cultivating your own

1137
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:17,250
spirituality by having a meditation

1138
00:56:22,850 --> 00:56:20,880
practice by having a contemplation

1139
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:22,860
practice through prayer through

1140
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:25,650
meditation through being in nature so

1141
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:28,410
you can you can learn to keep out the

1142
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:33,290
noise and stay true to your own Center

1143
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:36,570
hmm that's that's that's what this is

1144
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:38,490
that's what they're talking about human

1145
00:56:42,860 --> 00:56:41,070
evolution resolution is

1146
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:42,870
elevating a spiritual life it's

1147
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:47,400
cultivating uh uh an inner life normally

1148
00:56:51,620 --> 00:56:49,410
do that for us that's right and these

1149
00:56:56,450 --> 00:56:51,630
you know scary stories that were being

1150
00:56:58,250 --> 00:56:56,460
told and people concentrating on you

1151
00:57:03,760 --> 00:56:58,260
know the negative part in the

1152
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:03,770
differences between us and them it also

1153
00:57:10,550 --> 00:57:07,710
is I'm sure because what if they're

1154
00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:10,560
telling you know this message about you

1155
00:57:17,860 --> 00:57:14,700
know love and peace and in cooperation

1156
00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:17,870
then that really kind of runs counter to

1157
00:57:22,670 --> 00:57:21,300
some of the motives of some of the

1158
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:22,680
people who are telling these scary

1159
00:57:28,810 --> 00:57:25,680
stories I would imagine no listen listen

1160
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:28,820
there are grace who talked about that um

1161
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:32,370
but see the thing is is that again it's

1162
00:57:39,830 --> 00:57:37,440
not about denying that bad things have

1163
00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:39,840
happened we're not denying that when I

1164
00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:42,510
talking about an ostrich mentality but

1165
00:57:49,340 --> 00:57:45,150
we are saying that that doesn't mean

1166
00:57:52,850 --> 00:57:49,350
it's all bad for everybody it doesn't

1167
00:57:54,980 --> 00:57:52,860
mean that and so if I hear that I'll

1168
00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:54,990
give an example I moved to the south

1169
00:57:59,810 --> 00:57:58,140
from New York City okay I'm in an

1170
00:58:02,030 --> 00:57:59,820
interracial marriage my wife is a

1171
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:02,040
southern ER she can trace her roots back

1172
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:04,710
to the Confederacy they must be spinning

1173
00:58:09,650 --> 00:58:06,290
in their graves but that's another story

1174
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:09,660
hahaha I come down here I see

1175
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:13,110
Confederate flags I see some people who

1176
00:58:18,110 --> 00:58:14,910
I couldn't do anything to them but shine

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00:58:19,820 --> 00:58:18,120
their shoes so I come down here and I

1178
00:58:21,530 --> 00:58:19,830
meet people who wear Confederate flags

1179
00:58:25,130 --> 00:58:21,540
that treat me better than some people

1180
00:58:27,230 --> 00:58:25,140
who look like me so what do I say folks

1181
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:27,240
that all the people were Confederate

1182
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:30,480
flags are bad and crazy or do I say well

1183
00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:32,430
you know there is a lot of that going on

1184
00:58:36,830 --> 00:58:34,980
but in my experience I've met some

1185
00:58:38,780 --> 00:58:36,840
people with Confederate flag tattoos or

1186
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:38,790
whatever who treated me like the king of

1187
00:58:48,110 --> 00:58:43,770
mo ba ba ba ba be great okay but we

1188
00:58:51,020 --> 00:58:48,120
don't do that all the Muslims are bad

1189
00:58:54,810 --> 00:58:51,030
all the grades are bad all the

1190
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:54,820
reptilians are bad get our people you

1191
00:58:59,820 --> 00:58:57,610
don't do that let's think about that for

1192
00:59:01,740 --> 00:58:59,830
just a moment and we're going to take

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00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:01,750
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welcome back thanks for joining us

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01:03:36,529 --> 01:03:34,349
tonight if you just joined us we're

1280
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:36,539
talking to the Reverend Michael Carter

1281
01:03:42,049 --> 01:03:39,359
he's the author of his latest book

1282
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:42,059
called a new world if you can take it

1283
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:45,210
God extraterrestrials and the evolution

1284
01:03:51,020 --> 01:03:48,210
of human consciousness so you can get

1285
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:51,030
that book you can get it on grave

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01:03:55,819 --> 01:03:53,730
distractions calm which is his

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01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:55,829
publishers website you can also get at

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:03:57,690
amazon barnes and noble just about

1289
01:04:05,329 --> 01:04:01,650
anywhere so please pick it up and have a

1290
01:04:08,510 --> 01:04:05,339
look it's a not a super long book which

1291
01:04:12,140 --> 01:04:08,520
in my which in my book is a plus as

1292
01:04:14,539 --> 01:04:12,150
we're all busy and this is a lot of

1293
01:04:16,970 --> 01:04:14,549
material it's very concise though it's

1294
01:04:20,539 --> 01:04:16,980
very easy to read so I would recommend

1295
01:04:22,339 --> 01:04:20,549
it to everybody it's a new way of

1296
01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:22,349
looking at things and we're talking

1297
01:04:30,770 --> 01:04:25,200
about a new paradigm a new way of being

1298
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:30,780
for all of us so Michael now did you

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01:04:34,130 --> 01:04:32,250
want to say anything else about the book

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01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:34,140
is that the best way to get it is

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01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:36,329
through amazon through yeah yeah they

1302
01:04:41,029 --> 01:04:37,950
can get it and they can get it in

1303
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:41,039
softcover they can get it up on a milk

1304
01:04:46,730 --> 01:04:44,880
or Kindle basically the book is this

1305
01:04:51,049 --> 01:04:46,740
because I'm liking where we were going

1306
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:51,059
before I wrote the book um after alien

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01:04:57,799 --> 01:04:53,609
scriptures after being on you know doing

1308
01:05:00,769 --> 01:04:57,809
um the TV appearances on ancient aliens

1309
01:05:04,579 --> 01:05:00,779
I wanted to take it a step further and I

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01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:04,589
wanted to say okay let's say that these

1311
01:05:10,609 --> 01:05:07,770
ETS were here and they started religion

1312
01:05:13,849 --> 01:05:10,619
purposely or not but we don't know but

1313
01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:13,859
it happened and so where do we go from

1314
01:05:18,190 --> 01:05:15,599
here do we say God is an

1315
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:18,200
extraterrestrial I argue in the book no

1316
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:21,510
but there is there is there is an energy

1317
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:23,849
there is an intelligence we can't name

1318
01:05:29,269 --> 01:05:26,910
it because whatever you name the defined

1319
01:05:32,269 --> 01:05:29,279
I can never describe the infinite and

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01:05:38,269 --> 01:05:32,279
and I talk in the book about other ways

1321
01:05:39,890 --> 01:05:38,279
of being spiritual or religious that if

1322
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:39,900
you don't want to get involved with

1323
01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:41,760
churches or what have you there's other

1324
01:05:43,790 --> 01:05:42,660
ways

1325
01:05:45,980 --> 01:05:43,800
you don't throw out the baby with the

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01:05:48,740 --> 01:05:45,990
bathwater the Bible has a lot of wisdom

1327
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:48,750
in it the Bible has a lot of lessons in

1328
01:05:54,170 --> 01:05:51,810
it and so that's what I wanted to go

1329
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:54,180
that's why it's called gothic specials

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01:05:59,600 --> 01:05:55,970
and the evolution of human consciousness

1331
01:06:01,820 --> 01:05:59,610
we are going to have to mature remember

1332
01:06:04,790 --> 01:06:01,830
the book by arthur c clarke childhoods

1333
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:04,800
end yes well yeah when we find out we're

1334
01:06:09,260 --> 01:06:06,690
not the highest thing on the food chain

1335
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:09,270
so now it becomes how we going to act

1336
01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:11,250
now how are we going to behave towards

1337
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:13,470
one another how are we going to that's

1338
01:06:20,330 --> 01:06:16,650
why I love XO politics yes you know they

1339
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:20,340
have their battle lines drawn but we

1340
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:21,570
don't you know they don't talk about

1341
01:06:27,460 --> 01:06:24,930
this et exists they say of course we

1342
01:06:30,260 --> 01:06:27,470
know it now now how is one civilization

1343
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:30,270
going to interact with the other

1344
01:06:36,140 --> 01:06:32,850
civilization I think that's where we are

1345
01:06:38,930 --> 01:06:36,150
now people out here who is still trying

1346
01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:38,940
to find smoking guns get over it we know

1347
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:40,740
now forty-eight percent of the american

1348
01:06:45,170 --> 01:06:43,050
people believe in extraterrestrial life

1349
01:06:48,620 --> 01:06:45,180
fifty percent of the american people

1350
01:06:50,660 --> 01:06:48,630
believe that our government is hiding

1351
01:06:52,670 --> 01:06:50,670
stuff from us so that's off the table

1352
01:06:55,610 --> 01:06:52,680
now we don't have to try to prove it

1353
01:06:59,330 --> 01:06:55,620
anymore now we need to know what are we

1354
01:07:01,370 --> 01:06:59,340
going to do now because eventually not

1355
01:07:02,990 --> 01:07:01,380
new and for people like me and other

1356
01:07:05,030 --> 01:07:03,000
contactees you're going to meet these

1357
01:07:06,740 --> 01:07:05,040
people how are we going to deal with

1358
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:06,750
them are we going to deal with them with

1359
01:07:15,170 --> 01:07:11,370
fear are we going to let these false

1360
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:15,180
flags and what have you control the way

1361
01:07:21,770 --> 01:07:17,760
that we interact are we going to learn

1362
01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:21,780
to grow up or are we going to shoot

1363
01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:24,300
first and ask questions later which we

1364
01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:26,910
see where that gets us that gets us to

1365
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:33,150
three minutes to midnight yep now what

1366
01:07:41,870 --> 01:07:38,160
do you think about I mean I see that you

1367
01:07:43,940 --> 01:07:41,880
know in your new book you have a lot of

1368
01:07:47,210 --> 01:07:43,950
biblical references which I find really

1369
01:07:50,570 --> 01:07:47,220
interesting I think it's on my page 19

1370
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:50,580
of the book and you start with the Old

1371
01:07:56,539 --> 01:07:52,530
Testament and you name all these

1372
01:07:59,630 --> 01:07:56,549
references so obviously

1373
01:08:01,999 --> 01:07:59,640
you know you subscribed somewhat to the

1374
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:02,009
theory of you know the ancient

1375
01:08:10,669 --> 01:08:05,130
astronauts and sort of the zecharia

1376
01:08:12,410 --> 01:08:10,679
sitchin yeah like theories and so this

1377
01:08:16,189 --> 01:08:12,420
is obviously something that's been going

1378
01:08:20,299 --> 01:08:16,199
on you no longer than humans have

1379
01:08:25,519 --> 01:08:20,309
existed if we're to believe that or at

1380
01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:25,529
least modern human existed so how is

1381
01:08:35,569 --> 01:08:29,849
this relevant to us today and why has it

1382
01:08:38,809 --> 01:08:35,579
taken so long is it because we were you

1383
01:08:40,609 --> 01:08:38,819
know just to animalistic actually I hate

1384
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:40,619
to give animals bad name because I don't

1385
01:08:47,899 --> 01:08:44,369
think they act as badly as as humans do

1386
01:08:50,569 --> 01:08:47,909
but my goodness I mean you know this

1387
01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:50,579
seems to have been going on for century

1388
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:53,849
after century after century so are we

1389
01:09:00,439 --> 01:08:57,359
you know arrogant to think that this is

1390
01:09:04,669 --> 01:09:00,449
the time when it's all going to be made

1391
01:09:06,979 --> 01:09:04,679
clear to us or we're certain you know

1392
01:09:10,099 --> 01:09:06,989
we're the guys that are evolved enough

1393
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:10,109
to handle this sort of thing I mean why

1394
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:13,319
now or is it now or is this we're just

1395
01:09:18,289 --> 01:09:16,290
like a step along the way and this could

1396
01:09:20,899 --> 01:09:18,299
be something you know that's a thousand

1397
01:09:22,459 --> 01:09:20,909
years away from now wow those were a lot

1398
01:09:25,970 --> 01:09:22,469
of questions Renee I want to try to get

1399
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:25,980
the big ones oh sorry okay I go first of

1400
01:09:29,809 --> 01:09:28,049
all I put it in the book I think it's

1401
01:09:31,849 --> 01:09:29,819
relevant now for all the obvious reasons

1402
01:09:33,829 --> 01:09:31,859
whether you're on YouTube and of course

1403
01:09:36,260 --> 01:09:33,839
some of them are doctored up but a lot

1404
01:09:41,599 --> 01:09:36,270
of these are really genuine photographs

1405
01:09:43,339 --> 01:09:41,609
of UFOs it's relevant now because one

1406
01:09:46,370 --> 01:09:43,349
thing again I said at the top of the

1407
01:09:50,539 --> 01:09:46,380
show this phenomenon helps us to merge

1408
01:09:52,609 --> 01:09:50,549
spirituality and technology that's

1409
01:09:57,740 --> 01:09:52,619
number one so I think it's very relevant

1410
01:10:01,879 --> 01:09:57,750
for that number two is that why now is

1411
01:10:04,370 --> 01:10:01,889
because we are at a tipping point we

1412
01:10:06,410 --> 01:10:04,380
have climate change we have wars and

1413
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:06,420
rumors of wars at any given moment

1414
01:10:10,189 --> 01:10:07,650
there's like 100

1415
01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:10,199
d Wars going on on the planet something

1416
01:10:14,209 --> 01:10:12,360
we don't know about but you can always

1417
01:10:16,340 --> 01:10:14,219
go where our troops are you will see

1418
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:16,350
that there's always the possibility or

1419
01:10:21,950 --> 01:10:19,050
something going on under the guise of

1420
01:10:26,660 --> 01:10:21,960
terrorism meanwhile one cannot conquer

1421
01:10:30,620 --> 01:10:26,670
an idea but that's another show we are

1422
01:10:33,140 --> 01:10:30,630
at a tipping point where we have come to

1423
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:33,150
the brink because of this belief in

1424
01:10:40,459 --> 01:10:38,850
separateness and so we are seeing these

1425
01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:40,469
craft in our skies some of their

1426
01:10:45,649 --> 01:10:42,840
messages are you know we were like you

1427
01:10:47,419 --> 01:10:45,659
of millions of years ago we destroyed

1428
01:10:49,729 --> 01:10:47,429
our planet we know what you're getting

1429
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:49,739
ready to get into and some of it is just

1430
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:51,690
hey man you are a danger to this

1431
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:55,170
neighborhood let's just put it out there

1432
01:11:02,510 --> 01:10:58,320
there goes the neighborhood and so and

1433
01:11:05,419 --> 01:11:02,520
so it's crucial but it's also a time

1434
01:11:08,540 --> 01:11:05,429
where we can make the changes we need to

1435
01:11:10,669 --> 01:11:08,550
make in order to go to that next phase

1436
01:11:13,820 --> 01:11:10,679
of evolution in order to get in touch

1437
01:11:16,010 --> 01:11:13,830
with the deep deep oneness that resides

1438
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:16,020
in each and every one of us in order to

1439
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,050
to be able to use our psychic abilities

1440
01:11:24,890 --> 01:11:21,840
and and our healing abilities to create

1441
01:11:29,570 --> 01:11:24,900
the world that we want to see but I go

1442
01:11:32,959 --> 01:11:29,580
back again to quantum physics Jesus says

1443
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:32,969
it's done unto you as you believe so if

1444
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:34,320
you believe we're going to go to hell in

1445
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:37,650
a handbasket if you get five billion out

1446
01:11:40,939 --> 01:11:39,210
of the eight billion people to go there

1447
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:40,949
then that's where we're going it's the

1448
01:11:45,470 --> 01:11:43,110
power of our thought our thoughts are

1449
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:45,480
things whether it's the paradigm in our

1450
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:48,210
relationships health retreat that we

1451
01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:51,510
don't treat health retreat Elvis we

1452
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:54,030
don't we don't focus on peace we focus

1453
01:12:01,090 --> 01:11:57,600
on war and so if we have the power to

1454
01:12:03,890 --> 01:12:01,100
change that and again this is not

1455
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:03,900
kumbaya let's all hold hands and sing

1456
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:06,570
Kumbaya there's justice involved here

1457
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:08,850
this is not the love of let's sing

1458
01:12:12,189 --> 01:12:11,250
Kumbaya there's a justice component to

1459
01:12:14,979 --> 01:12:12,199
love

1460
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:14,989
well we got to change our ways king said

1461
01:12:18,489 --> 01:12:17,030
it best we will live to learn to live

1462
01:12:21,549 --> 01:12:18,499
together as brothers or sisters or

1463
01:12:24,459 --> 01:12:21,559
perish together as fools the choices

1464
01:12:27,549 --> 01:12:24,469
before human kind are not non-violence

1465
01:12:37,049 --> 01:12:27,559
vs. violence but non-violence versus

1466
01:12:40,359 --> 01:12:37,059
non-existence I tell you it's it's

1467
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:40,369
boggles the mind I mean it's it's a you

1468
01:12:47,109 --> 01:12:43,449
know it see it's such a hopeful a

1469
01:12:49,330 --> 01:12:47,119
message that you're giving as opposed to

1470
01:12:52,109 --> 01:12:49,340
the negative ones that we get all the

1471
01:12:56,620 --> 01:12:52,119
time from you know from the news and

1472
01:12:58,689 --> 01:12:56,630
also from this scary alien stories it

1473
01:13:01,509 --> 01:12:58,699
would be wonderful to be open to the

1474
01:13:04,419 --> 01:13:01,519
idea that you know maybe that somebody's

1475
01:13:06,910 --> 01:13:04,429
out there that's lived a little bit

1476
01:13:08,649 --> 01:13:06,920
longer or been around their society has

1477
01:13:11,259 --> 01:13:08,659
been around a little bit longer we could

1478
01:13:13,870 --> 01:13:11,269
actually learn something from and if

1479
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:13,880
they're willing to help us and give us

1480
01:13:18,279 --> 01:13:15,920
some advice I mean that seems like a

1481
01:13:21,449 --> 01:13:18,289
wonderful thing now why do you think

1482
01:13:24,129 --> 01:13:21,459
that it seems to me like they have

1483
01:13:27,279 --> 01:13:24,139
abilities or you know certainly they've

1484
01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:27,289
evolved in ways that we haven't quite

1485
01:13:34,330 --> 01:13:31,550
yet they seem to have the technology or

1486
01:13:37,239 --> 01:13:34,340
whatever it takes to get from here to

1487
01:13:41,459 --> 01:13:37,249
there that we haven't quite sussed out

1488
01:13:44,799 --> 01:13:41,469
yet they seem to have a great way of

1489
01:13:47,049 --> 01:13:44,809
communicating that's telepathic that it

1490
01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:47,059
seems that when we're with them we can

1491
01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:50,380
do that but are on our own were not so

1492
01:13:57,939 --> 01:13:54,320
we're not so great but why is it that

1493
01:13:59,680 --> 01:13:57,949
they haven't intervened and said okay

1494
01:14:02,589 --> 01:13:59,690
we're going to stop you guys from

1495
01:14:05,979 --> 01:14:02,599
blowing each other up because it seems

1496
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:05,989
to me like they do have they could have

1497
01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:10,400
power over us well first of all they

1498
01:14:14,830 --> 01:14:13,369
have intervened that's why Robert that's

1499
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:14,840
why Robert Hastings has that wonderful

1500
01:14:19,959 --> 01:14:18,110
book I'll UFOs and nooks where military

1501
01:14:22,299 --> 01:14:19,969
people are coming out saying they shut

1502
01:14:24,530 --> 01:14:22,309
down our missile silos well yeah there's

1503
01:14:26,750 --> 01:14:24,540
the big waters case for one yeah

1504
01:14:30,740 --> 01:14:26,760
so so that's the one for work I commend

1505
01:14:33,290 --> 01:14:30,750
it highly number two is if they

1506
01:14:35,180 --> 01:14:33,300
intervene what is it what message is

1507
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:35,190
that first of all we will worship them

1508
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:37,410
as gods we would shoot them down we do

1509
01:14:47,660 --> 01:14:43,370
that anyway thirdly when your child

1510
01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:47,670
makes a mess as they get older do you

1511
01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:48,900
clean it up for them and you say you got

1512
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:51,230
to clean up your own mess you made it

1513
01:14:58,190 --> 01:14:56,400
and so we can't get used to someone

1514
01:15:01,190 --> 01:14:58,200
coming behind us then there's no

1515
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:01,200
accountability there's no accountability

1516
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:04,170
it's not my fault or if you're usually

1517
01:15:08,570 --> 01:15:06,120
made a mess okay well Joe he'll come

1518
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:08,580
help me clean it up no why don't you not

1519
01:15:12,860 --> 01:15:11,250
make the mess in the first place I've

1520
01:15:15,530 --> 01:15:12,870
got one of those people that says

1521
01:15:17,180 --> 01:15:15,540
they're going to be saviors I believe

1522
01:15:20,150 --> 01:15:17,190
these brothers and sisters are saying

1523
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:20,160
and I said it earlier you have split the

1524
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:23,760
atom you've had the audacity to split

1525
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:27,930
the atom over civilian cities that's

1526
01:15:33,170 --> 01:15:31,170
called terrorism yes we have always

1527
01:15:36,740 --> 01:15:33,180
short in World War two by blah blah blah

1528
01:15:40,940 --> 01:15:36,750
we saved all these lives uuuu split the

1529
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:40,950
atom / non military targets hmm okay but

1530
01:15:46,820 --> 01:15:44,880
that's not bad bad enough you made soap

1531
01:15:48,230 --> 01:15:46,830
out of people during the Holocaust you

1532
01:15:52,430 --> 01:15:48,240
know there's some issues with you guys

1533
01:15:55,730 --> 01:15:52,440
but as long as you're doing that on your

1534
01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:55,740
own planet that's okay but now you've

1535
01:16:02,660 --> 01:15:58,650
come out into our backyard you're

1536
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:02,670
militarizing space we can't have that we

1537
01:16:09,260 --> 01:16:05,610
simply can't have that so it's as much

1538
01:16:12,530 --> 01:16:09,270
self preservation as it is some form of

1539
01:16:14,300 --> 01:16:12,540
altruism now I guess in Star Trek which

1540
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,310
I just started watching this year well

1541
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:16,320
Deep Space nine because i didn't watch

1542
01:16:19,220 --> 01:16:17,850
all that stuff that's why i didn't

1543
01:16:21,380 --> 01:16:19,230
believe i didn't believe in UFOs and

1544
01:16:23,390 --> 01:16:21,390
what have you you know they have

1545
01:16:26,450 --> 01:16:23,400
something about prime directive where it

1546
01:16:29,660 --> 01:16:26,460
is against the Federation rules to

1547
01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:29,670
intervene someone should tell Washington

1548
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:35,100
this affairs of other planets right okay

1549
01:16:42,230 --> 01:16:37,770
we don't have regime change

1550
01:16:45,860 --> 01:16:42,240
elastically it'll do that and so it is

1551
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:45,870
my opinion that we've made a mess and

1552
01:16:50,030 --> 01:16:47,760
they're here to tell us how we can

1553
01:16:56,690 --> 01:16:50,040
change the mess but they're not here to

1554
01:16:59,900 --> 01:16:56,700
do it for us but if they feel that we're

1555
01:17:04,520 --> 01:16:59,910
a danger to the neighborhood danger to

1556
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:04,530
the universe then you know do you think

1557
01:17:11,060 --> 01:17:07,530
there might be a point when they step in

1558
01:17:12,890 --> 01:17:11,070
or I don't know i don't i don't want to

1559
01:17:16,370 --> 01:17:12,900
ever think about that because if that

1560
01:17:18,860 --> 01:17:16,380
happened we must have really doubt if

1561
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:18,870
that happens i guess we really feel it's

1562
01:17:24,530 --> 01:17:21,690
really gonna but yeah I mean what I mean

1563
01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:24,540
you know there are military people there

1564
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:27,480
are if you made disclosure if you read

1565
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:30,450
Robert Hastings work if you read and

1566
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:32,310
he's got a documentary either it's out

1567
01:17:38,540 --> 01:17:35,970
now or coming out they have shown that I

1568
01:17:41,210 --> 01:17:38,550
mean what more what more what more

1569
01:17:43,820 --> 01:17:41,220
lesson do you need I'm a military person

1570
01:17:48,020 --> 01:17:43,830
in charge of nuclear weapons a ship

1571
01:17:50,060 --> 01:17:48,030
comes and gives us a big hint this is

1572
01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:50,070
unacceptable and to show you it's

1573
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:52,860
unacceptable we will incapacitate them I

1574
01:17:58,730 --> 01:17:57,120
mean even Stevie Wonder can see maybe we

1575
01:18:00,920 --> 01:17:58,740
need to be really careful with this I

1576
01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:00,930
mean I don't know what else could they

1577
01:18:11,630 --> 01:18:09,300
do well I suppose I suppose so I guess

1578
01:18:14,540 --> 01:18:11,640
they're probably doing what they can and

1579
01:18:17,330 --> 01:18:14,550
and you know maybe there is I mean we

1580
01:18:19,220 --> 01:18:17,340
have free will we have free will because

1581
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:19,230
you know what the next argument is well

1582
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:20,610
who are they to intervene in out there

1583
01:18:25,670 --> 01:18:22,410
we have to do that good luck so you

1584
01:18:27,140 --> 01:18:25,680
can't win that's right that's right they

1585
01:18:28,460 --> 01:18:27,150
came down here and they did this and

1586
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:28,470
doesn't it up and they're taking over

1587
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,130
you know how human beings are damned if

1588
01:18:36,980 --> 01:18:34,320
you do damned if you don't yeah that's

1589
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:36,990
right yeah pretty big kids in who knows

1590
01:18:42,170 --> 01:18:39,570
but I think they've done to keep us from

1591
01:18:45,380 --> 01:18:42,180
being on the brink we don't know or

1592
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:45,390
we'll find out later you know after some

1593
01:18:50,919 --> 01:18:47,310
things are sealed or that are a better

1594
01:18:53,540 --> 01:18:50,929
that are opened hmm

1595
01:18:57,319 --> 01:18:53,550
yeah well it's it's coming out all over

1596
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:57,329
that's for sure and you know certainly

1597
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:00,719
across Europe we're seeing a lot of

1598
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:03,840
disclosure and you know we're seeing

1599
01:19:12,709 --> 01:19:08,249
some come out in the Snowden releases

1600
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:12,719
and others regarding you know the et

1601
01:19:22,069 --> 01:19:19,199
presence I just don't see how it's sort

1602
01:19:24,609 --> 01:19:22,079
of like we're finally getting out of the

1603
01:19:29,389 --> 01:19:24,619
idea that you know if I say I saw a UFO

1604
01:19:31,310 --> 01:19:29,399
you know I'm going to be laughed at you

1605
01:19:33,049 --> 01:19:31,320
know it's always like you know someone

1606
01:19:36,620 --> 01:19:33,059
says all I saw something and everybody

1607
01:19:40,669 --> 01:19:36,630
ho ho ho merry you know but that was

1608
01:19:44,569 --> 01:19:40,679
sort of 20 years ago now i think you're

1609
01:19:46,069 --> 01:19:44,579
right i think people are certainly and

1610
01:19:48,949 --> 01:19:46,079
especially you know what I think has

1611
01:19:53,719 --> 01:19:48,959
made a big difference it's been the

1612
01:19:56,779 --> 01:19:53,729
Hubble telescope several years back when

1613
01:20:00,080 --> 01:19:56,789
all those images started being

1614
01:20:04,489 --> 01:20:00,090
transmitted back and we found that our

1615
01:20:07,459 --> 01:20:04,499
universe was so much bigger than we

1616
01:20:10,209 --> 01:20:07,469
could have imagined that you know we're

1617
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:10,219
a very young planet in a very young

1618
01:20:16,250 --> 01:20:13,530
solar system and there are not only

1619
01:20:18,409 --> 01:20:16,260
other planets out there but other solar

1620
01:20:21,469 --> 01:20:18,419
systems that are millions and millions

1621
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:21,479
of years older than ours so why in the

1622
01:20:28,669 --> 01:20:24,110
world would this be the only place that

1623
01:20:31,339 --> 01:20:28,679
develops sentient beings intelligent

1624
01:20:33,889 --> 01:20:31,349
life you know if we can even call

1625
01:20:38,330 --> 01:20:33,899
ourselves intelligent some of the things

1626
01:20:42,319 --> 01:20:38,340
that we do but it's you know I do think

1627
01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:42,329
people are much more willing to admit

1628
01:20:47,299 --> 01:20:44,729
that that's really not only a

1629
01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:47,309
possibility but it would seem like that

1630
01:20:53,419 --> 01:20:50,729
would be the most probable way that

1631
01:20:55,929 --> 01:20:53,429
things would be why why would be be so

1632
01:20:59,839 --> 01:20:55,939
arrogant to think we're the only ones

1633
01:21:02,670 --> 01:20:59,849
it's you know it's too crazy now what do

1634
01:21:06,180 --> 01:21:02,680
you think we're going

1635
01:21:10,170 --> 01:21:06,190
eh maybe you know get into the idea of

1636
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:10,180
of what God is or what you think God is

1637
01:21:17,970 --> 01:21:12,400
you're talking about the god of the Old

1638
01:21:21,950 --> 01:21:17,980
Testament but that's not the god or

1639
01:21:25,740 --> 01:21:21,960
overall is that am I correct in that

1640
01:21:28,380 --> 01:21:25,750
that's what I believe when a I believe

1641
01:21:30,450 --> 01:21:28,390
that at and I'm not the only person who

1642
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:30,460
believed that there were some Gnostics

1643
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:31,840
who believed it and then people can buy

1644
01:21:37,170 --> 01:21:33,970
the book and read about that but I

1645
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:37,180
believe that Yahweh is an

1646
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:40,690
extraterrestrial I believe because of

1647
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:45,010
his temper tantrums and is um them being

1648
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:48,730
jealous and his you know obsession with

1649
01:21:52,770 --> 01:21:50,320
who's circumcised and wizard and

1650
01:21:55,470 --> 01:21:52,780
intermarriage and I think that's not a

1651
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:55,480
god I want to worship you know he gives

1652
01:22:00,600 --> 01:21:57,970
people someone else's land and they kill

1653
01:22:02,670 --> 01:22:00,610
men women and children to go to the

1654
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:02,680
promised land it's all in the Bible I'm

1655
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:08,050
not making it up for those stubborn

1656
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:10,090
people if you read I'm reading the

1657
01:22:20,610 --> 01:22:14,610
Hebrew translation in English Jeremiah

1658
01:22:23,460 --> 01:22:20,620
we're looking at Jeremiah 13 verse 14

1659
01:22:26,010 --> 01:22:23,470
and this is the Lord now the Lord is

1660
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:26,020
also different sometimes the Lord and

1661
01:22:31,140 --> 01:22:28,510
Yahweh use interchangeable but I will

1662
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:31,150
smash them run against the other parents

1663
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:32,890
and children alike declares the Lord

1664
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:36,130
nope any compassion or mercy will stop

1665
01:22:41,130 --> 01:22:38,530
me from destroying them it's hard to get

1666
01:22:43,230 --> 01:22:41,140
down on your knees or in the lotus

1667
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:43,240
position or any other position with

1668
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:44,890
someone who has that kind of attitude

1669
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:46,960
about life but when you're brainwashed

1670
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:50,290
as a child it's hard for you you don't

1671
01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:52,450
know the answers are given to you before

1672
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:55,480
you get the questions now my good friend

1673
01:23:01,380 --> 01:22:58,480
Barry doubting he says Michael you want

1674
01:23:04,170 --> 01:23:01,390
your God to be warm and fuzzy and you

1675
01:23:06,570 --> 01:23:04,180
know and maybe that's true but I know if

1676
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:06,580
a human being did that that's called a

1677
01:23:12,570 --> 01:23:08,910
war crime but then again we don't

1678
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:12,580
prosecute those nowadays my point being

1679
01:23:19,470 --> 01:23:14,800
is just that

1680
01:23:21,390 --> 01:23:19,480
um any God that I can name is not God

1681
01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:21,400
because God is infinite if you want to

1682
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:25,270
use that word so you can define I can

1683
01:23:29,460 --> 01:23:27,370
never comprehend the infinite but I

1684
01:23:32,010 --> 01:23:29,470
don't think it's a man or a woman there

1685
01:23:35,610 --> 01:23:32,020
may be female and male qualities or

1686
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:35,620
characteristics or energy but the

1687
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:38,170
palladiums talk about and with billy

1688
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:40,770
meier they talk about that there is a

1689
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:46,170
humanoid figure call God with a small G

1690
01:23:53,070 --> 01:23:50,650
but above this person is something that

1691
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:53,080
they call creation well a lot of

1692
01:23:58,920 --> 01:23:55,450
negative Americans call the create or

1693
01:24:02,490 --> 01:23:58,930
the creation is an energy creation is an

1694
01:24:05,130 --> 01:24:02,500
intelligence it has no form it is all

1695
01:24:07,710 --> 01:24:05,140
around us we're already swimming in it

1696
01:24:11,580 --> 01:24:07,720
and in their ways you can use this

1697
01:24:13,770 --> 01:24:11,590
energy by your thoughts it is done unto

1698
01:24:16,860 --> 01:24:13,780
you as you believe what you reap what

1699
01:24:20,130 --> 01:24:16,870
you sow these are universal laws this is

1700
01:24:23,850 --> 01:24:20,140
not personal so their laws in the

1701
01:24:26,100 --> 01:24:23,860
universe what we could call that God God

1702
01:24:30,630 --> 01:24:26,110
has a lot of baggage with it but it's an

1703
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:30,640
energy and so we've been worshipping a

1704
01:24:34,980 --> 01:24:33,130
god that we've created in the sense of

1705
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:34,990
it's it's it's a humanoid or

1706
01:24:41,340 --> 01:24:38,650
extraterrestrial and people bow down and

1707
01:24:43,770 --> 01:24:41,350
pray to this Yahweh people will kill you

1708
01:24:45,330 --> 01:24:43,780
if you don't believe in Yahweh people

1709
01:24:49,290 --> 01:24:45,340
will kill you if you don't believe in

1710
01:24:52,050 --> 01:24:49,300
Allah people will kill you over this

1711
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:52,060
stuff meanwhile what is the Creator

1712
01:24:56,730 --> 01:24:54,570
doing up there it's not taking sides

1713
01:24:58,560 --> 01:24:56,740
people scored touchdowns at a football

1714
01:25:01,590 --> 01:24:58,570
game and they do the sign of the Cross

1715
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:01,600
and they point up as if God cares about

1716
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:03,250
whether they stake they scored a foot

1717
01:25:09,020 --> 01:25:05,110
buddy he scored a touchdown we'll see a

1718
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:09,030
lot of that this sunday yeah our our our

1719
01:25:17,870 --> 01:25:13,360
concept of God is primitive because we

1720
01:25:20,850 --> 01:25:17,880
use it to separate universal energy

1721
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:20,860
creation is about unity it doesn't mean

1722
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:23,920
you give up your individuality but it's

1723
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:26,650
about unity love brings people

1724
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:30,610
together that's what loved us it does

1725
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:33,370
not separate so if it's not bringing

1726
01:25:41,610 --> 01:25:36,370
folk together then you got to say maybe

1727
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:41,620
this is not this is not love and so what

1728
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:43,210
I try to do in the book is I give the

1729
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:45,850
Palladium spiel on it as much as I could

1730
01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:48,730
for my research but and then we and then

1731
01:25:53,220 --> 01:25:51,670
you can make your own choice we don't

1732
01:25:55,919 --> 01:25:53,230
have to live a like we don't have to

1733
01:25:58,860 --> 01:25:55,929
think alike to love a lot but if you

1734
01:26:01,200 --> 01:25:58,870
still think God is a Santa Claus it's

1735
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:01,210
hard to live the fullness of life it's

1736
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:03,850
hard to appreciate life when you're

1737
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:04,810
worried about whether you're going to

1738
01:26:10,380 --> 01:26:07,679
burn in hell if you don't get it right

1739
01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:10,390
you or someone else is going to burn in

1740
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:11,830
hell because they don't do it the way

1741
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:14,800
you do it that's not the spirituality

1742
01:26:19,470 --> 01:26:17,440
and and the splendor of the human being

1743
01:26:25,950 --> 01:26:19,480
that our et friends are trying to show

1744
01:26:27,660 --> 01:26:25,960
us yeah I think I hope that's true I

1745
01:26:31,620 --> 01:26:27,670
hope you're right about that because

1746
01:26:34,410 --> 01:26:31,630
that's not a very positive work don't

1747
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:34,420
take my word for it just live it what is

1748
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:37,120
what it is is is the way is your

1749
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:40,570
perspective on religion its height this

1750
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:42,010
is this is rhetorical you don't have to

1751
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:45,449
answer is it making you a more holistic

1752
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:50,880
integrative happy individual if it's not

1753
01:26:55,649 --> 01:26:53,770
then maybe a new perspective is in order

1754
01:26:58,020 --> 01:26:55,659
if you want to keep on getting what

1755
01:27:01,860 --> 01:26:58,030
you're getting I live in the same world

1756
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:01,870
you do I don't have all the fear and I

1757
01:27:07,410 --> 01:27:04,650
know I'm not saying you do but if you do

1758
01:27:10,290 --> 01:27:07,420
what is what is this person doing and

1759
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:10,300
I'm not a dumb man i'm not an ostrich

1760
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:13,449
mentality but every day we get to choose

1761
01:27:19,979 --> 01:27:18,130
love or fear every day we have a choice

1762
01:27:22,370 --> 01:27:19,989
am i going to choose love in this

1763
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:22,380
situation or am i going to choose fear

1764
01:27:29,630 --> 01:27:26,650
Jesus of Nazareth lived in a time of

1765
01:27:34,290 --> 01:27:29,640
empire like we do we live in an empire

1766
01:27:36,810 --> 01:27:34,300
and he knew that he wasn't going to stop

1767
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:36,820
Caesar in Rome from doing the same thing

1768
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:39,650
our legions do today but

1769
01:27:45,669 --> 01:27:42,770
he knew that the kingdom of heaven was

1770
01:27:48,340 --> 01:27:45,679
within and so the world could go to hell

1771
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:48,350
in a handbasket but you don't you just

1772
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:51,650
remember you are children of God or call

1773
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:54,489
it what you will and that you matter

1774
01:27:59,950 --> 01:27:58,489
that you have significance and you can

1775
01:28:03,160 --> 01:27:59,960
have the peace that passes all

1776
01:28:07,229 --> 01:28:03,170
understanding but don't take my word for

1777
01:28:09,700 --> 01:28:07,239
it see we'll see what it does for you

1778
01:28:13,149 --> 01:28:09,710
absolutely well that's a great note to

1779
01:28:15,729 --> 01:28:13,159
end tonight show on Michael I want to

1780
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:15,739
thank you for being our guest tonight it

1781
01:28:21,010 --> 01:28:19,250
flew by and you're such an interesting

1782
01:28:24,820 --> 01:28:21,020
guess I hope you'll come back again and

1783
01:28:26,620 --> 01:28:24,830
also I know that you you know speak in

1784
01:28:29,740 --> 01:28:26,630
lecture at conferences and things like

1785
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:29,750
that so please do let us know the next

1786
01:28:33,790 --> 01:28:31,370
time you're scheduled for a conference

1787
01:28:37,810 --> 01:28:33,800
and also any of you conference promoters

1788
01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:37,820
out there he's a wonderful speaker if

1789
01:28:42,580 --> 01:28:40,159
you I'm sure you can find them online if

1790
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:42,590
you can't contact me and I'll be glad to

1791
01:28:46,990 --> 01:28:45,770
put you in touch with Michael and also

1792
01:28:51,060 --> 01:28:47,000
let us know if you have any TV

1793
01:28:54,370 --> 01:28:51,070
appearances coming up and will keep our

1794
01:28:57,189 --> 01:28:54,380
listeners posted yes just one last thing

1795
01:28:59,140 --> 01:28:57,199
I want to just say listen gang I'm just

1796
01:29:00,970 --> 01:28:59,150
talking I'm not pushing Christianity

1797
01:29:03,580 --> 01:29:00,980
down your throat please because there

1798
01:29:06,130 --> 01:29:03,590
are many ways I'm just sharing that i am

1799
01:29:07,570 --> 01:29:06,140
using jesus as the example because

1800
01:29:10,300 --> 01:29:07,580
that's what my books are about and

1801
01:29:12,729 --> 01:29:10,310
that's my own personal theology but it

1802
01:29:15,820 --> 01:29:12,739
could be atheism it could be Buddha it

1803
01:29:17,919 --> 01:29:15,830
could be whatever but you know it's

1804
01:29:20,260 --> 01:29:17,929
about the inner journey and I just want

1805
01:29:22,780 --> 01:29:20,270
to make sure people earned that and I

1806
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:22,790
wish everybody p on many many blessings

1807
01:29:29,459 --> 01:29:25,489
well thank you very much Michael yes one

1808
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:29,469
door is all it takes right yeah okay

1809
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:33,199
alright thanks so much get Michael's new